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| 001 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC Chronology |
Day 1 - Festival on Mt Munch - Kiki Aru learns the magic word and leaves Oz, visiting 1) Hiland/Loland; 2) Merryland; 3) Noland, where he spends the night Day 2 - Kiki Aru travels through Noland, Ix, Ev - he encounters Ruggedo - night in inn - the Glass Cat tells Cap'n Bill about the Magic Flower Day 3 - Dorothy wonders what to give Ozma for her birthday - she visits Glinda & bargains with the Wizard - they leave for the Forest of Gugu - Trot & Cap'n Bill leave to retrieve Magic Flower - they spend night at the edge of the forest - Kiki Aru & Ruggedo plot to conquer Oz - they cross the Desert in bird form in the evening Day 4 - Kiki Aru and Ruggedo consult with Gugu and his counselors - Trot & Cap'n Bill are caught by the Magic Island & the Glass Cat returns to the Emerald City for help Day 5 - The Animals' Revolt breaks out - Dorothy & Wizard arrive, are enchanted by Kiki Aru - arrival of Glass Cat - Wizard learns the magic word - Glass Cat leads party to rescue Trot & Cap'n Bill - night in Munchkin Country Day 6 - Glass Cat torments monkeys - the party camps overnight & the monkeys retaliate Day 7 - The Glass Cat leaves the party around noon An unspecified amount of time passes before the party arrives at the Emerald City. Ozma's birthday is the following month. August 21 - Ozma's birthday and party August 22 - Disenchantment of Kiki Aru and Ruggedo Note on the Glass Cat's trip: The Glass Cat makes the trip from the Magic Isle to the Forest of Gugu via the Emerald City in less than 24 hours. I can see no evidence in the text to argue for a longer (or shorter) period of time. Baum comments that she moved "like a crystal streak," but this would depend on the amount of territory she covered and the amount of time she spent. A closer look at her trip may provide some more information. 1) "The day was nearly gone" when Cap'n Bill and Trot crossed to the Magic Island to get the flower, so it would have been even later when the Glass Cat left for the Emerald City. 2) Since the Pink Kitten was "curled up in the sunshine" when Bungle arrived at the palace, it must have been morning--the morning of the following day (Day 5 in the chronology). 3) Alternatively, if Baum's earlier statement about the day being "nearly gone" is not taken literally, it might have been the evening before (Day 4 in the chronology). 4) This would dovetail nicely with Toto's comment about Dorothy's party having left "yesterday"; but Toto also says that Dorothy was going "to the Great Forest in the _Munchkin_ Country" (emphasis mine). He may have been confused; or Baum (or his editor) may have made an error here. I have assigned Dorothy's departure to the previous day (Day 3) on the grounds of Dorothy's statement to the Wizard, "Let's leave now." 5) At any rate, whether Bungle arrived at the EC in the evening of Day 4 or the morning of Day 5, by late morning of Day 5, she had arrived in the Forest of Gugu. So in the time between the end of Day 4 and the middle of Day 5 Bungle had traveled the same distances that Trot and Cap'n Bill had traveled and Dorothy and the Wizard had traveled--which included a full day of travel by both parties, plus the time the Glass Cat spent in the EC--in the period of less than a day. She must have been traveling more than twice as fast than both of the parties for an extended length of time in order to get to the Forest of Gugu by midday. Based on the IWOC maps and the dimensions of Oz given in Dave Hardenbrook's FAQ (and the alternative suggested by David Hulan), I can't see that Bungle traveled less than 60-80 miles over the whole trip--possibly more (100-120). Assuming that she left the Magic Island around 8 PM and arrived in the EC around 7 AM, then left for the Forest of Gugu around 8 AM and arrived there around 12 PM (purely arbitrary numbers) this would mean that she was traveling between 3 1/3 and 8 miles per hour-perfectly doable, but hardly the "crystal streak" described by Baum. This leaves us with several possibilities (assuming that the text is correct as printed): 1) Bungle's entire trip may have been quite a bit larger; but if that is the case, I think we need to argue that Oz itself is larger than the dimensions we've set for it in previous discussions. 2) The timing may be off--Bungle may have spent more time in the EC, or may have stopped at some point during the night or the following morning (unlikely--Baum says that she left the palace "without stopping to ask any more questions") 3) Something else may be going on that Baum either didn't know or wasn't interested in repeating. |
| 002 [Return to index] | Subject: ozzy digest | From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> |
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 98 11:57:23 CST From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Subject: ozzy digest Some comments on "Magic of Oz": David Green and Dick Martin in their "Oz Scrapbook" commented that the last two Oz books were more somber in mood, with dangers that seemed more threatening (growing down out of existence in "Magic" and drowning in "Glinda") than in previous Oz books, and suggested that Baum's increasing ill health influenced them. A detail that tends to back them up is in Cap'n Bill's comments on how we fail to appreciate good health until we don't have it. Michael Riley in his "and Beyond" book points out that the plot is recycled from a combination of "Emerald City" (Ruggedo's attempt to conquer Oz) and "Road" (Ozma's birthday), and comments that the combination is original enough to give the book a distinctive atmosphere, maybe not as engaging as Baum at his best, but at about his middle level (I'd agree with that, too). I seem to have mis-remembered what Roger Sale said in his "Oz" essay in his "Fairytales and After" book, as I thought he presented the Lonesome Duck as his primary example of the series of characters he sees as self-images of Baum in the later Oz books, weary enchanters who would like to be left alone and can get snappish if pestered but are still capable of friendly enchantment if properly coaxed (others being both the Yookoohoo witches, and -- not an enchanter, but similarly content with being left alone, Nimmie Aimee). But I couldn't find any mention of the LD in re-reading his essay. Did my eye skip a paragraph, or was I remembering some other essay entirely, that I couldn't find? Anyhow, whoever said it, the LD is certainly an amusing and striking character. Ruth Berman |
| 003 [Return to index] | Subject: Oz and what we wore | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:47:46 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: Oz and what we wore More to come from me on MAGIC [as if any of you had doubts], but first I'll say what a pleasure it was to reread one of the books in which Baum showed himself at the top of his game. Three tight, interwoven plots, with hardly a flat or incidental episode; lively and true-to-themselves characterizations of Ozians old and new; and a happy ending with little contrivance. Fun! J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 004 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and yellow knights | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:06:37 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and yellow knights Now some thoughts on MAGIC. Because I think this book is more successful than most of Baum's, I don't feel a need to tease out a theme to unite its parts. It's already quite unified. The book's first plot begins during a party: the Hyups' festival, where "The young folks danced and sang songs; the women spread the tables with good things to eat, and the men played on musical instruments and told fairy tales" [21]. Meanwhile, Dorothy and Trot are also preparing for a party, and their plans initiate the other two plots. Against those images of joyous communities Baum gives us portraits of two loners, "wanderers" [35] without community. Kiki Aru "sat sullenly outside the circle" [22], completely fourteen. Then our old antagonist Ruggedo reappears, sly and vengeful. "The wandering ex-King of the Nomes" [266] has immense wealth in his pockets, but wants more. Kiki has nearly unlimited power in the word *pyrzqxgl*, but "always wanted to be wicked" [33]. To achieve their goal they make themselves into Li-Mon-Eags, forcing themselves partway into four different animal communities and yet remaining outside them all. Baum makes clear that these two Li-Mon-Eags aren't even in league with each other--each is still a loner. Set against that plot, the stories of Trot and Dorothy are stories of communities rescuing those who go it alone. Both girls and their companions leave the Emerald City on secret missions--in MAGIC Ozma's birthday party gives Baum a plausible, if artificial, reason for not involving her and her power from the start. Away from their community, both girls both end up in dire trouble. But through their close companions and their links to home--the Glass Cat literally returns to the Emerald City in her search for the Wizard--Dorothy can save Trot before it's too late. The Glass Cat is a curious choice to tie these threads together. Baum tells us over and over that she's a loner and a wanderer, as much as Kiki and Ruggedo. But unlike those villains, the Glass Cat cares about her standing in society [62]. Her complete hard-heartedness is just for show [149]. Aloof as she is, the Glass Cat is a member of the palace community. In rereading MAGIC this time, I was struck by how many characters speak of or are said to have their "people": Loo the Unicorn [97], the Kalidah [110], Rango [188], the Wizard [192-3], Gugu [196]. Obviously, most of these peoples aren't people in the sense of humans, as Ruggedo uses the word on page 128. Rather, they're communities. Therefore, the term has especially strong meaning when Ozma says she will help Ruggedo become as good-hearted as "our own people" [266]. The villains have lost their original places in, or rather out of, society; as the Wizard says, "the boy can tell us nothing of his history and his family" [261]. But in Ozma's Emerald City, Kiki and Ruggedo will both be integrated into a community. [Readers of KABUMPO know how long that'll last!] The two encounters with the Lonesome Duck are the only major episodes which can be lifted out of MAGIC without affecting its plots. Yet, as Ruth Berman wrote, <<the LD is certainly an amusing and striking character.>> Furthermore, the duck is another loner who throws Oz's communities into stark relief. "Everyone I meet--bird, beast or person--is disagreeable to me," it says proudly. Trot suggests, "You can do things for others, and then you'd get lots of friends and stop being lonesome," but the duck replies, "Now you're getting disagreeable" [178-9]. "I like to be lonesome, so please don't offer to be friendly to me" [204]. Even in the vast community of Oz, there's a small castle for complete loners. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 005 [Return to index] | Subject: Oz things | From: d.godwin at minn.net (David Frank Godwin) |
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:03:37 -0600 From: d.godwin at minn.net (David Frank Godwin) Subject: Oz things Could the Lonesome Duck be some sort of remnant of the Lonesome Zoop of the LFB silent Oz films? Acutally, I doubt it. The two characters have entirely different personalities. The annoying zoop wants to be everybody's buddy (or possibly to frighten them; its motivations are never very clear), while the duck just wants to be left alone. Question: did the Lonesome Zoop have any origin external to the films or exist in any form outside them? Not in any Oz book, I think, but perhaps elsewhere? Actually,the zoop seems to have more in common with the animated phonograph in PGOz. Could it have been a deliberate substitution in the PG film? After all, it's a lot easier for an actor to dress up like a zoop than a phonograph. - David G. |
| 006 [Return to index] | Subject: Ozzy Things | From: Dave Hardenbrook <DaveH47 at mindspring.com> |
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 14:03:53 (PST)
From: Dave Hardenbrook <DaveH47 at mindspring.com>
Subject: Ozzy Things
COMMENTS ON _MAGIC OF OZ_:
If Kiki lost his memory via the H2O of Ob.,so that he "can tell us nothing
of his history", then how was Baum able to write about the events involving
him and Ruggedo at all? (This is an "Oz as History" question of course...) :)
My dad regards _Magic_ as the darkest of all the Baum Oz books. IMHO
that dubious title belongs to _Dorothy & Wiz_, but still I can see
his point: No longer the funny, roly-poly, second-rate baddie,
Ruggedo really is sinister in this book. And the idea of the beasts'
rebellion is reminicent of _Animal Farm_...
Ruggedo: No more Mr. Nice Guy!
-- Dave
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| 007 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and attitudes | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:47:34 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and attitudes David Godwin wrote: <<did the Lonesome Zoop have any origin external to the films or exist in any form outside them?>> I can't help thinking the Zoop's reason for being was that the costume was in Fred Woodward's trunk. "I've got the donkey outfit I used in the TIK-TOK MAN OF OZ musical, and a lion, and a tiger, and you've built me a Woozy, but how can we use *this*?" Of course, that begs the question of why Woodward might have a Zoop costume originally. Since he did stage work before joining the Oz Film Company, the costume's original use may not have been preserved. Turning to MAGIC, Dave Hardenbrook wrote: <<If Kiki lost his memory via the H2O of Ob.,so that he "can tell us nothing of his history", then how was Baum able to write about the events involving him and Ruggedo at all?>> Ozma might have tracked him back by asking the Magic Picture, "Show me this mysterious boy's parents," interviewing them, and having Glinda review her Great Book's entries with 20-20 hindsight. But that probably still wouldn't uncover some events. Most notable among those is how Kiki left the *pyrzqxgl* instructions in a "tin box in a neglected corner part of the [Arus'] garden" [25]. Perhaps Bini or Mopsi stumbled across that box and recognized their son's handwriting on the paper inside. If not, having someone else find that box is a good opening for a story! More on MAGIC: The book was published in 1919 when America saw World War I as a noble triumph and, I believe, Frank Joslyn Baum was still in Europe. Yet it strikes me as showing a conflicted view of war. Neill draws soldiers from the Allied trenches [186-7], but Baum's description gives them "immense soldier caps...with red and yellow plumes" [189], the same old-fashioned uniforms of his earlier comic armies. Baum's dedication and author note speak admiringly of the Allied forces. But the image of war in his story seems more to reflect America's attitude toward the World War before 1917. War threatens the Emerald City only because Ruggedo convinces Gugu and his subjects that Oz's humans wish to enslave them. He even claims evidence of an arms race: he "saw them all begin making ropes--ropes long and short--with which to snare our friends the beasts" [126-7]. We Oz readers naturally root for Ozma's side in any conflict, but this book isn't showing the army that might oppose her as villains (as in EMERALD CITY). Rather, they're innocent dupes of a greedy war-monger. That depiction of the "enemy" is a strong contrast to the Beat-the-Hun propaganda that swamped America in 1917 and 1918. It seems more like the attitude behind America's earlier neutrality, Wilson's 1916 campaign, Henry Ford's peace mission, and so on. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 008 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-19-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:08:40 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-19-98 11/19: Ruth: Calling the plot of _Magic_ recycled from a combination of _Emerald City_ and _Road_ is something of a stretch, I think. It's true that it deals with an attempt by Ruggedo to conquer Oz and a birthday party for Ozma, but both are handled completely differently from the ones in the earlier books. Where Ruggedo's first attempt was highly likely to succeed and was foiled only by a huge coincidence (that his tunnel opened directly in front of the Fountain of Oblivion), this one had very little chance even if all had gone as well as he hoped. And whereas the birthday party in _Road_ was just a (very lengthy and rather boring) filler at the conclusion of the real goal of the book, which was getting Dorothy to the Emerald City so Ozma could send her home, in this one the search for presents motivates two of the three major subplots. I don't even remember any presents at the party in _Road_, and certainly Dorothy wasn't concerned with finding one. I like the Lonesome Duck, too; I've used him in a couple of short stories, though only in bit parts. 11/20: J.L.: Interesting comments on _Magic_. You rate it higher than I do (I put it around the middle of Baum's oeuvre, about on a par with _Land_, _Scarecrow_, and _Glinda_, but not as good as _Wizard_, _Ozma_, _Patchwork Girl_, _Rinkitink_, or _Lost Princess_), but you're right that it's probably the most tightly-plotted Oz book Baum wrote. Dave: >If Kiki lost his memory via the H2O of Ob.,so that he "can tell us nothing >of his history", then how was Baum able to write about the events involving >him and Ruggedo at all? (This is an "Oz as History" question of course...) :) Good question. I suppose the only answer is that we know Ruggedo did recover his memory eventually, and must have told someone what he and Kiki had done. And Kiki must have told him what happened to him before they met. (Not what the magic word was, of course, but the Wizard could have filled that in later.) That's about the only solution I can think of. Some comments on MAGIC: Kiki's journey at the beginning of the book gives us some of our best information about the countries surrounding Oz. His route, though, makes the location of Ev inconsistent with _Ozma_, which is one of the more difficult contradictions to resolve in Baum. Throwing out the _Tik-Tok_ map as non-authoritative, the other Baum books can be reconciled with _Ozma_'s evidence that Ev is across the desert from the Munchkin country by assuming that the Nomes have magic gates that let them transport themselves instantly from one part of their dominions to another. This would remove the problem that the tunnel in _Emerald City_ went under the Winkie Country. But Kiki flies east from the Munchkin country across the desert to Hiland, then north across Merryland to Ix, then west across Noland to Ev. This implies that Ev is west or northwest of Oz and opposite the Winkie and/or Gillikin countries. Ruggedo seems to have forgotten how he was deposed and exiled from his former kingdom. He blames it on Ozma and Dorothy when they had nothing to do with it. Ruggedo's plan to conquer Oz using an army of animals seems exceedingly unlikely to work. I can't believe that Gugu would have been gullible enough to take the word of a couple of Li-Mon-Eags and actually go to war with the humans of Oz without sending a few trusted scouts out to verify what they'd told him. I don't see this threat to Oz as serious at all. Trot and Cap'n Bill have a very strange reaction to some of the Wizard's proposed methods of rescuing them. Sure, cutting off their roots, or pulling them up bodily, would hurt, probably a lot. But when the alternative is total destruction, do you think you'd object to some pain? I'd beg the Wizard to try to think of something else, and not to be precipitate about it, but if it came to that I'd give up some fingers and toes - and much more gladly something as useless as roots - to avoid destruction, and I can't imagine that Trot and Cap'n Bill wouldn't feel the same. That's all that occurs to me at the moment, and I have work I need to get to, so I'll wait and see what other people have to say. David Hulan |
| 009 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-20-98 | From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom at hotmail.com> |
From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-20-98 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 09:47:25 PST Dave Hardenbrook: >COMMENTS ON _MAGIC OF OZ_: >If Kiki lost his memory via the H2O of Ob.,so that he "can tell us >nothing >of his history", then how was Baum able to write about the events >involving >him and Ruggedo at all? (This is an "Oz as History" question of course...) :) In many Oz books, the authors relate information that could not have been received merely by communicating with someone in Oz, such as the thoughts and motivations of certain characters. In _Hungry Tiger_, for instance, the Tiger decides that he will never tell anyone his reason for going to Rash, yet Thompson includes this reason in her story. Either the Royal Historians do a lot of guessing, or they have some sort of insight into the characters' minds. -- May you live in interesting times, Nathan DinnerBell at tmbg.orghttp://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/5447/ |
| 010 [Return to index] | Subject: ozzy digest | From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> |
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 10:34:51 CST From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Subject: ozzy digest J.L. Bell: Interesting comments on contrast of longers/communities in "Magic." Speaking of the Glass Cat's pride -- I've been getting this picture in mind of a meek Glass Cat with pebbled head going meekly to the Wizard shortly after "Patchwork Girl" and saying very meekly, "On second thought, I hate myself this way. I feel uncatlike and not myself, and dull pebbles don't show up the way pink brains do, so people keep tripping on me, and I'm afraid I'll get broken, and I promise that if you let me FEEL arrogant I won't act on it, at least not all the time." And possibly after she got her pink brains back, she started dropping lots of comments about the attractiveness of pinkness, and at that point Eureka went to Glinda and said, "You know, I enjoyed being pink when the light was pink, and Bungle's been one-upping me about being colorful, and I think Quadling rose is a particularly fine color, so would you please strike me pink?" Dave Hardenbrook: How the Royal Historian could have found out about Kiki Aru's past considering that the boy had lost his memory -- possibly Bini Aru decided that under the circumstances a little magic was called for, transformed himself into a bird to go looking for Kiki, and eventually found him and explained his past to Ozma. If he started out by crossing the Desert, he might have run into the birds who could tell him how Kiki got teamed up with Ruggedo. Alternatively, if Ozma felt curious enough to visit Ev to ask about who had last seen Ruggedo, she might in turn have traced Kiki back to Mt. Munch. (You'd think that she could have just asked the Magic Picture to show her the boy's home, but as that didn't occur to her in the first place, I suppose we're to assume that not having a memory of himself would make Kiki someone the picture's magic couldn't identify further.) Ruth Berman |
| 011 [Return to index] | Subject: Ozzy digest -- MAGIC | From: Sduffley at aol.com |
From: Sduffley at aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:11:22 EST Subject: Ozzy digest -- MAGIC J.L. Bell wrote: >>Ozma might have tracked him back by asking the Magic Picture, "Show me this mysterious boy's parents," interviewing them, and having Glinda review her Great Book's entries with 20-20 hindsight. But that probably still wouldn't uncover some events. Most notable among those is how Kiki left the *pyrzqxgl* instructions in a "tin box in a neglected corner part of the [Arus'] garden" [25]. Perhaps Bini or Mopsi stumbled across that box and recognized their son's handwriting on the paper inside. If not, having someone else find that box is a good opening for a story! We seem to be of like minds on this one, John. At risk of alienating/annoying those without access to back issues of "Oziana," I refer you to the 1986 number, which includes my story, "Much Ado About Kiki Aru." ... "Magic" was always my favorite Oz book, but it troubled me that we never heard anything more about the Hyup boy. Ruggedo reappears numerous times in Thompson's Oz books, and though I certainly wouldn't accord Kiki equal stature in the ranks of Oz villains, he always intrigued me. In essence, part of me identified with him: who wouldn't be bored spending their days in the claustrophobic, idyllic (read: boring!) community atop Mt. Munch? I see Kiki as a typical rebellious teenager, not inherently evil but easily gone astray out of frustration and/or a selfish desire to discover his "self", even if this comes at the expense of others. In my story, Mopsi and Bini Aru return from the Hyup festival to discover their son's absence. In searching the house, Bini stumbles upon the loosened floorboard -- remembering that he hid the instructions to the magic word there, he uses its power to set off to the Emerald City, intent upon using Ozma's magic picture to discover his son's whereabouts. (Nb: while Kiki may have buried a copy of the instructions in a tin box in the garden, he replaced the original in the floor of Bini's workshop (p. 24)). Meanwhile, in the Emerald City, Dorothy sympathizes with the generally unhappy Munchkin lad who has recently joined the palace community -- the boy is unhappy, as most amnesiacs are, to realize that he has no memory. Dorothy, too, decides to consult the magic picture to learn the boy's true identity. ... Ultimately, Kiki is reunited with his parents and sent back to Mt. Munch. For good measure, the story also addresses the origin of the word "Pyrzqxgl" and explains why, after "Magic," the word is never used again. My apologies to Digest readers for this tangent -- and shameless plug ... however, at least the story was published and, I believe, is still available from the Club (so please spare me complaints about references to obscure, inaccessible material!). Sean Duffley "I didn't know I was being wicked ... but if I was, I'm glad of it. I hate good people. I've always wanted to be wicked, but I didn't know how." -- Kiki Aru, The Magic of Oz. |
| 012 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ history | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:36:25 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ history David Hulan wrote: <<Calling the plot of _Magic_ recycled from a combination of _Emerald City_ and _Road_ is something of a stretch, I think. It's true that it deals with an attempt by Ruggedo to conquer Oz and a birthday party for Ozma, but both are handled completely differently from the ones in the earlier books.>> Yes, the difference in how Baum uses Ozma's birthday shows up clearly when we view it in relation to Dorothy's autonomy. In ROAD, the birthday is why Ozma is guiding and looking after her friend. In MAGIC, it's the reason Dorothy and Trot are on their own and we *can't* expect Ozma to rescue them. Letting the girls act for themselves is both more pleasing and more tense. David Hulan wrote: <<Ruggedo's plan to conquer Oz using an army of animals seems exceedingly unlikely to work. I can't believe that Gugu would have been gullible enough to take the word of a couple of Li-Mon-Eags and actually go to war with the humans of Oz without sending a few trusted scouts out to verify what they'd told him.>> I agree the plan is unlikely--Ruggedo may actually be thinking the beasts would cause enough chaos that he and Kiki could use the weapon of *pyrzqxgl* on their enemies without being detected. At the same time, Baum clearly sets up Gugu's subjects as volatile and violent. The beasts must be restrained "from fighting and tearing one another to pieces. . . . some of them have lost an eye or an ear or even had a leg torn off" [82-3]. The first time we see Gugu and his advisors, they're considering a case in which a boar for no clear reason bites off a giraffe's tail, the giraffe kicks a nursing mother, and the tussle quickly escalates into violence from two other animals as well [87-8]. So even if only some of these animals end up following the Li-Mon-Eags [130-1], they could easily disrupt Ozma's "Happy Corner" in the center of Oz [53]. Nifty suggestion, Ruth Berman, about the Glass Cat's personality restoration (and how Eureka got <<in the pink>> as well). If Eureka asked to be colorized first, no longer being the only unusual cat in the palace could have pricked the Glass Cat into asking for her brains back. Ruggedo also undergoes a restoration from being a humble subject of the new King Kaliko at the end of TIK-TOK. In MAGIC the former Nome King is again a wanderer on the Earth's surface, pockets filled with jewels [37], as Tititi-Hoochoo had demanded. That pattern makes me wonder whether reforming these prickly personae was Baum's idea in the first place. We know from the "Garden of Meats" episode that Reilly & Britton was concerned about not giving children nightmares. We know that many years later the publisher rewrote WONDER CITY to reform its main character. I therefore wonder whether Reilly & Britton suggested to Baum that the Glass Cat and Ruggedo needed to learn lessons, and perhaps that the Nome's exile was too harsh or scary for young readers. ["Mommy, the Nome King's wandering around up here, and now he's really mad!" "Calm down, dear. Let me tell you about vibrational planes."] When going back to those characters, Baum might have picked them up from where *he* had wanted to leave them. Some other observations on how Baum composed MAGIC: There's a curious transition right in the middle of the book. Up to page 188 Baum seems always to refer to the Glass Cat as "it." Starting on page 189, the cat is always "she." This seems like an odd place for Baum to have stopped writing for a while, however. Another interesting item is on page 250, where the word "Sorceror" appears in place of "Scarecrow." We've recently heard about how Baum prepared these late manuscripts: writing the first draft in hand, then typing them--or having them typed. This error seems the sort that a typist, not the author, would create. I recall that the author's note in TIN WOODMAN promised more about "The Magic of Oz." Because that phrase appears in quotation marks, I see it as a sign Baum had MAGIC lined up for publication. Finally, Baum's author note for MAGIC speaks of a "long and confining illness" having prevented him from replying to letters--"unless stamps were enclosed." I assume that last phrase was just a reminder to fans not to burden his wallet. The way it's inserted, however, it says Baum had been replying to letters with stamps all along, and that he would reply to all letters from then on. Sadly, he was quite near the end of his life. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 013 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-25-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:47:03 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-25-98 J.L.: >More on MAGIC: The book was published in 1919 when America saw World War I >as a noble triumph and, I believe, Frank Joslyn Baum was still in Europe. >Yet it strikes me as showing a conflicted view of war. True, but it's also known that Baum wrote the basic story much earlier - in 1915, I believe - and only did minor revisions to it before publication. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but I know that _Magic_ and _Glinda_ were written before _Lost Princess_, and I think maybe before _Rinkitink_, and stored in a safe deposit box to be available in case he died soon. In the event he lived long enough to revise them somewhat - for instance, adding the Frogman and Tin Soldier to the guests at Ozma's birthday party in _Magic_, and the former to Ozma's councillors in _Glinda_ - but it's most likely that the attitude toward war in _Magic_ was that of the average American in 1915 rather than in 1918 or 1919, after America had been drawn into The Great War anyhow. David Hulan |
| 014 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-25-98 | From: sahutchi at iupui.edu |
From: sahutchi at iupui.edu Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:48 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: sahutchi at iupui.edu To: "Dave L. Hardenbrook" <DaveH47 at mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-25-98 On Magic: I've read that Jeffrey Goines's concept of the Army of the 12 Monkeys_ (in Terry Gilliam's _Twelve Monkeys_) was derived from a sequence in this book. I haven't read it lately, but I think it is referring to a passage when six monkeys become human soldiers. Refresh me on the detials if I'm mistaken. Scott |
| 015 [Return to index] | Subject: ozzy digest | From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> |
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 98 12:07:24 CST From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Reply-To: Ruth A Berman <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Subject: ozzy digest J.L. Bell: Fred Woodward must have had quite a lot of animal costumes in his trunk. As a stage actor he'd specialized in animals. I think the main part of the Zoop costume would have been an ape costume. David Hulan: You're right that it would be odd to accept destruction as preferable to the pain of getting pulled up by the roots, but probably it's meant to be assumed that Trot and Cap'n Bill are thinking in terms of "Surely you can find a less painful treatment?" Ruth Berman |
| 016 [Return to index] | Subject: Oz | From: Tyler Jones <tnj at compuserve.com> |
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:37:36 -0500 From: Tyler Jones <tnj at compuserve.com> Subject: Oz Mount Munch: According to Baum, the Hyup country is shaped like a saucer, "wide and deep", implying that their land slopes downward toward the central part of the community. It's a god thing, too. If the land was higher at the center, and sloped downward toward the edge, there may not be as many Hyups as there are today. Tyler Jones |
| 017 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-30-98 | From: sahutchi at iupui.edu |
From: sahutchi at iupui.edu Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:12:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-30-98 Sean: At the time I read "Much Ado About Kiki Aru," I liked it so much I wanted to consider iot official, but I haven't read it since middle school. I do notice that it is contradictory with _The Glass Cat of Oz_, which I still must admit I haven't read, and I'll reiterate this again, particularly if Melody (though she's not on the digest anymore) thought I was insulting her (never intentionally) that I don't buy you guys' books because I don't haver time to read anything not required for schoool at the present time. When I get to be Stephen's age, I'll have read everything Oz there is to read, and as much of everything else as I can. Scott |
| 018 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and *pyrzqxgl* | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:32:19 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and *pyrzqxgl* Sean Duffley wrote of his 1986 OZIANA story "Much Ado About Kiki Aru": <<Kiki is reunited with his parents and sent back to Mt. Munch. For good measure, the story also addresses the origin of the word "Pyrzqxgl" and explains why, after "Magic," the word is never used again.>> Thanks for the reference, Sean, self-promoting or not. I neglected this OZIANA twelve years ago, so you gave me a reason to catch up a step. Like you, I suspect the Oblivious Kiki would retain his "somewhat sulky manner." Rather than send him back to Mount Munch, though, I've imagined him still living in the Emerald City, where he finally finds excitement enough to keep him only a little grumbly. He starts living as an ordinary Ozian, letting himself grow to manhood, starting a family. Eventually, I imagine, Ruggedo might achieve his goal of seizing control of the capital. He calls the young man to the palace and demands he become chamberlain. Kiki, under whatever name he's assumed, scowls and insists he's never met Ruggedo before. The Nome fumes: "Of course we've met! Don't try to fool me--the Water of Oblivion lasts only a few years! If you don't become my chamberlain, I'll--" And Kiki whispers *pyrzqxgl* and is off on the wings of a dove. I'm sure many other folks have wondered why, if *pyrzqxgl* is so powerful, the Wizard doesn't use it in later Oz books. Sean has one imaginative explanation. Another is that it's limited in important ways that MAGIC doesn't reveal to us. We see *pyrzqxgl* working only on nearby people. Does it transform people only into other living or once-living things, like nuts (Kiki threatens to turn Ruggedo into a stone [39], but never does so)? And how long do *pyrzqxgl* transformations last (at least a week or so, in the case of that nutty Ruggedo)? Speaking of *pyrzqxgl*, the attitude toward transformation shown in MAGIC seems to differ from that in TIN WOODMAN. After Mrs. Yoop's enchantments, we read seemingly endless complaints about how awful it is being a straw bear, a tin owl, and so on. In this book unexpected transformations are bewildering [142], but we read fewer complaints. Dorothy prefers being herself, not a lamb, but doesn't bleat about it [148]. Bru would prefer to stay a bear, but Loo enjoys being a man [94-7]. Though the forest wolf says, "I'm thankful I escaped with my own shape," he equates the Li-Mon-Eag's changing others with "making them all his slaves" [152]. Other animals actually "wanted to be transformed" [132]. One special case is Ruggedo, who's "dreadfully ashamed" of being turned into a goose who "might lay an egg!" [158] That implies he's a gender other than gander--quite a change. (As supporting evidence for that deduction, the Nome wasn't so upset about being another bird--an eagle [50].) Furthermore, in TIN WOODMAN the canary and the tin owl discovered their shapes naturally brought them knowledge of some bird language. As a monkey Woot instinctively flees through the forest from the jaguar. In contrast, Kiki deems his cry as a hawk to be "the funny sound this sort of bird makes" [25]. He doesn't know what hawks eat, and can't grasp sleeping the way hawks do [28]. Later we read of "the voice of Kiki, coming from the eagle" [50]. In sum, the *pyrzqxgl* spell doesn't seem to go as deep as Mrs. Yoop's yookoohoo magic; it changes the physical form of a person, but doesn't change that person's mind at all. Nor does Baum emphasize *pyrzqxgl* as a terrifying force that saps people of their identity. From the time Bini Aru discovers the word [19], it's presented as a tool, like the Magic Belt, no better or worse than the use to which it's put. David Hulan described one of the starting-points for his GLASS CAT OF OZ as <<I wanted to explore what would happen if a sympathetic character had the use of "pyrzqxgl">>. It thus seems fair to read his book as one learned interpretation of how that magic word works. [I'll avoid SPOILERS about plot points beyond the first chapters, for folks who haven't read this 1995 title yet.] Typical of David's smart approach to the series--smarter often than the characters within it--he starts by deducing that *pyrzqxgl* is actually disguised: "There is such a word, but it doesn't resemble *Pyrzqxgl*. If the author knew it at all, he deliberately misled his readers" [GC, 13]. In contrast, Baum solemnly warns us, " It might be well,...in reading this story aloud, to be careful not to pronounce *Pyrzqxgl* the proper way, and thus avoid all danger of the secret being able to work mischief" [20]. Early in GLASS CAT David's protagonists use *pyrzqxgl* to instantly change their clothes [GC, 16]. On rereading MAGIC, I see it indeed establishes the word can provide clothing: Kiki creates a giant soldier "dressed in a uniform and with a sharp sword" [164]. Nevertheless, David's scene originally got my knickers in a twist. That's because Kiki's spell was part of changing a monkey into a giant, while the children in GLASS CAT remain as they are *except* for their clothing. Furthermore, Baum implicitly tells us clothing is integral to a human: when Kiki is restored to "his natural form," he appears fully dressed as a Munchkin [259]. To Baum, born and raised a Victorian, natural and naked are incompatible. To Hulan, modern thinker that he is, a child can forget to put on underwear. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 019 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-30-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:06:35 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 11-30-98 J.L.: >Nifty suggestion, Ruth Berman, about the Glass Cat's personality >restoration (and how Eureka got <<in the pink>> as well). I like the part about the Glass Cat's personality restoration, but the Shaggy Man refers to Eureka as a Pink Kitten in PG when he first tells Bungle about her, so I don't think Eureka's pinkness can be placed after the restoration of Bungle's brain color. >["Mommy, >the Nome King's wandering around up here, and now he's really mad!" "Calm >down, dear. Let me tell you about vibrational planes."] I remember reading an SF story - I think by Bradbury, maybe in _The Illustrated Man_ - where some kids were dealing with an interdimensional invader and called him "Ruggedo" for very much that sort of reason. It was indeed odd that Baum transitioned from "it" to "she" as the pronoun for the Glass Cat in the middle of _Magic_; I've noticed that as well. In PG the cat was always "she"; I forget what the pronoun was in _Glinda_, which is the only other book where she had a speaking part. Ruth: >David Hulan: You're right that it would be odd to accept destruction as >preferable to the pain of getting pulled up by the roots, but probably >it's meant to be assumed that Trot and Cap'n Bill are thinking in terms >of "Surely you can find a less painful treatment?" That would be my interpretation of their initial reactions, certainly, but it wouldn't explain their farewells on the last page of chapter 18, where Cap'n Bill says, "I guess, friends, it's all up with us this time," and Trot, after a somewhat lachrymose speech, ends it with, "...I hope, Dorothy, that none of you in the Emerald City will forget me - or dear ol' Cap'n Bill." To me, this clearly says that they've decided that it's better to be destroyed than to have the roots cut off; otherwise they'd be saying, "Are you _sure_ that cutting off the roots is the only way you could save us?" David Hulan |
| 020 [Return to index] | Subject: ozzy digest | From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> |
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 11:23:01 CST From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Subject: ozzy digest J.L. Bell: Ruggedo's shame at being turned into a goose who might lay eggs may have more to do with Nomes' fear of eggs than with fear of losing his own sex. // Amusing adaptation of phrase in calling the King of Ev "mad, bad, and dangerous to know." David Hulan: You're right, it does sound as if Trot and Cap'n Bill are resigned to death rather than going through the pain of being pulled up by the roots. Maybe they forget about the radical alternative at that point in the subconscious hope that more emotional pressure on the Wizard will stimulate him to a less painful solution. Ruth Berman |
| 021 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and reality | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:25:41 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and reality MAGIC comments first this time. Thinking back to Ruth Berman's and David Hulan's comments about the Lonesome Duck, I was struck by how little Baum anthropomorphizes it [and I believe Baum does refer to the Duck consistently as "it"]. That increases its isolation from the book's heroines and readers. Baum's usual magic-working animals--King Dox, the fairy beavers, the Lavender Bear, and so on--wear at least some clothing, walk upright, and carry tools. Often their magic involves wands and human speech. The Lonesome Duck, in contrast, grows toadstools by "waddling" and "quacky muttering" [180-1]. It carried the diamonds for its palace "in my bill" [204]. It walks like a duck, it talks like a duck--it's a duck. A few weeks ago we were discussing what sort of creatures the island of the Magic Flower captured. Because the Lonesome Duck wasn't rooted there, and because Trot and Cap'n Bill quickly flew away as bees, David Hulan theorized that the Isle caught mammals but not birds and insects. During this reading I therefore kept an eye out for clues on that one way or the other. Unfortunately, MAGIC's statements about the Isle are shifty. To start with, the Glass Cat first describes it "in the north of the Munchkin Country" [62], but she leads Trot and Cap'n into Gillikin land [102]. The Cowardly Lion knows stories "about the Isle and how the Magic Flower was placed there to entrap strangers--men or beasts. . . . if any living thing ventures upon the Magic Isle,...that man or beast takes root in the soil" [198-9]. Cap'n Bill decides, "it's only flesh that gets caught" on the island [118]; "It's only a thing made of meat--like man an' beasts--that the magic can hold an' root to the ground" [222]. Thus, on the one hand we have "any living thing" and all "flesh," but on the other the repeated phrase "man and beasts." Does that term "beasts" exclude birds and insects? The Lonesome Duck complains, "Beasts and men are terribly clumsy" [202], but it feels just as sour about fellow birds as about mammals. Ruggedo says, "Let us mix the shapes of several beasts," and includes eagles among those [84-5]. Yet there are no birds among the "beasts" assembled in the Forest of Gugu [122]. Just as Baum uses "people" elastically in this book, the definition of "beasts" seems fuzzy. On top of that ambiguity, the Lion is passing on a legend and Cap'n Bill is working with limited evidence--neither authoritative statements. We do see the Lonesome Duck walk around the Isle with no problem. But we also know that bird uses magical powers "for my own needs" [180]. Therefore, I don't think its freedom on the island necessarily extends to other birds. In the end, however, I came away thinking that the birds/mammals issue isn't the key to Trot and Cap'n Bill's escape. Nor does their release involve a theory I put forward before--that *pyrzqxgl* changes people around their center of mass or their brains, so the bees started a coupla feet off the island. Rather, the crucial variable is how long one touches the Isle. At first Trot "ran up the bank"; only when the Flower's beauty makes her stand still does she take root [113]. The Wizard, wise in the ways of magic, quickly assumes that time matters: he suggests his axe "will chop those roots from your feet and you can run to the raft before they grow again" [214]. Thus, when the Wizard uses *pyrzqxgl* to transform Trot and Cap'n Bill (whose bodies now include their roots), "up from the place where they had been flew two bumble-bees" [219]. Given shapes with no roots and the ability to fly, they quickly stopped touching the Isle, and were thus free. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 022 [Return to index] | Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and timing | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:09:48 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: MAGIC OF OZ and timing Turning to MAGIC, Ruth Berman wrote: <<Ruggedo's shame at being turned into a goose who might lay eggs may have more to do with Nomes' fear of eggs than with fear of losing his own sex.>> I'm sure it does, and that fear of eggs makes Ruggedo's reaction to being transformed different from others'. It also means, unless he's amazingly ignorant of where eggs come from, that he's *also* become a female. Baum, old poultry expert that he was, well knew the difference between a goose and a gander. Still more MAGIC remarks: Bru the bear's name clearly derives from the word bruin. Rango comes from orang, a point underscored on page 188 when Baum has a character call, "O Rango!" [Like the multiple appearances of "O Ak!" in SANTA CLAUS.] Do folks see similar puns in the names of the other denizens of the Forest of Gugu: Loo [82], Chipo, Arx, Tirrip [87], Ebu, Peeker [184-5], and Gugu himself? I recall being intrigued by the gifts different folks were making for Ozma early in MAGIC, but on this reading I realized I'd missed a lot about those. The Scarecrow and the Tin Woodman continue their habit of thinking each is made of the best of all possible material [68-9]. The Scarecrow has ordered some "straw foot-decorations" (a long reach for a pun on "strawfoot"). The tin man has made "a lovely girdle set with beautiful tin nuggets." When I first read MAGIC in the early 1970s, I knew girdles only as undergarments, not belts, and I remember thinking, "Wouldn't Ozma hurt herself wearing that?" With a few more years under my girdle, I can also appreciate the mythic resonance of Glinda overseeing fifty young maidens weaving a gown made of emeralds [74]. In myths weaving and other fabric work are often associated with female power: Penelope in the ODYSSEY, the Fates, the princess in "Rumpelstiltsken." Finally, one comment about Trot's gift makes me suspect Button-Bright was away from the palace until shortly before Ozma's party. "Trot...allowed no one in her room to see the beautiful blossoms except her friends, Betsy Bobbin and Dorothy" [238]. I can't imagine Trot excluding Button-Bright from her room when she lets in Betsy. Neill's illustrations for MAGIC follow the same pattern as in TIN WOODMAN, including half-page illustrations within the chapters. I checked the color plates in the Dover edition of MAGIC, and was underwhelmed. Many of them have empty colored backgrounds, and seem to show hasty draftsmanship. They don't set the book's mood as well as those two-page drawings of the Forest of Gugu. page 13, the drawing atop the Table of Contents: Any truth to the rumor that in the first edition you can see the opening of CORIOLANUS on the typewriter paper? 17: The vertical lines in the chapter-opening frame are obviously hand-drawn, in contrast to what I think are machine-made lines Neill used for shading from TIK-TOK to LOST PRINCESS. 155, 203: Twice Neill uses sunflowers with facial expressions commenting on the action. 209: The Wizard's tripod and bowl here also appears on the cover, though why Neill drew a crowned monkey there escapes me. Finally, this seems a fine time to discuss the timing of MAGIC. David Hulan wrote: <<Baum wrote the basic story much earlier - in 1915, I believe - and only did minor revisions to it before publication. I don't remember the exact sequence of events, but I know that _Magic_ and _Glinda_ were written before _Lost Princess_, and I think maybe before _Rinkitink_, and stored in a safe deposit box to be available in case he died soon. In the event he lived long enough to revise them somewhat - for instance, adding the Frogman and Tin Soldier to the guests at Ozma's birthday party in _Magic_, and the former to Ozma's councillors in _Glinda_>> I noticed how Baum was careful to add the Frogman and Tin Soldier on opposite sides of the dinner table, preserving its symmetry. I continue to be puzzled about (a) why, if Baum had MAGIC and GLINDA nearly ready to publish, he instead worked on RINKITINK, LOST PRINCESS, and/or TIN WOODMAN; and (b) when he would have found the time to write those two held-back manuscripts. At the end of SCARECROW Baum promised a story about Dorothy, Trot, and Betsy together--the story that became LOST PRINCESS. He was almost apologetic about giving readers RINKITINK instead. Eviscerating the end of KING RINKITINK to make it an Oz book implies that Baum hadn't completed the book he wanted, was up against a deadline, and saw no better solution. But if he'd written MAGIC (with plots for Dorothy and Trot) or GLINDA (in which Betsy, Trot, and Button-Bright all leave the capital to rescue Dorothy) before LOST PRINCESS, either of those would have fulfilled his promise better than Inga's story. One possible scenario: Baum got bogged down in LOST PRINCESS, noodled around with MAGIC and GLINDA as alternatives, and finally realized he had to adapt RINKITINK to make his deadline. All that work gave him a head start for the next year, and the failure of the Oz Film Company gave him more time. He finished MAGIC, GLINDA, and LOST PRINCESS by his next deadline, and chose to polish and publish LOST PRINCESS first since it was what he'd promised readers. That composition would make the three stories oddly contemporaneous, not sequential; i.e., any one of them could have "taken place first." Peter Hanff reported how the handwriting on the TIN WOODMAN manuscript looks much shakier than on MAGIC and GLINDA. Baum was clearly feeling the effects of ill health [which I think is reflected in the book itself]. With MAGIC and GLINDA complete, or nearly so, he could have slowed the writing of TIN WOODMAN. That he didn't implies he felt a powerful need to finish that book--maybe because it addressed a loose end about one of his oldest and most popular Oz characters, maybe because the book had crucial things to say about Oz's origins, maybe because its themes spoke to him, or maybe because he needed to accomplish one more big project in his lifetime. J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
| 023 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-03-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 23:51:58 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-03-98 12/3: J.L.: > One special case is Ruggedo, who's "dreadfully ashamed" of being turned >into a goose who "might lay an egg!" [158] That implies he's a gender other >than gander--quite a change. No more so than transforming Gugu into a Gillikin woman. David Hulan |
| 024 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-10-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:16:05 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-10-98 12/10: J.L.: >The tin man has made "a lovely girdle set with beautiful tin >nuggets." When I first read MAGIC in the early 1970s, I knew girdles only >as undergarments, not belts, and I remember thinking, "Wouldn't Ozma hurt >herself wearing that?" Reminds me of a misconception I had back when I first read the Oz books, not that it connected with them uniquely - I knew the term "girdle" as a belt from my reading, but I'd never seen the undergarment's name written out, and thought it would be spelled "gertle." Had to be some way to distinguish such distinct concepts, right? David Hulan |
| 025 [Return to index] | Subject: The Magic of Oz | From: calamity at eureka.lk |
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:54:21 +1100 To: DaveH47 at mindspring.com From: calamity at eureka.lk Subject: The Magic of Oz Thhere are lots of un-fit facts in Magic of Oz.Here are a few: 1.In-Patchwork Girl-The Wizard replaces Bungle's pink brains with new,more humble ones.(Did he do the same to her heart)?But in-Magic-she's as vain and selfish as before and she has the pink brains. 2.Ozma only invites her close friends for her birthday.(She Doesn't even invite the Good witch of the North) 3.Baum does not identify the Glass cat as Bungle anywhere. 4.Dorothy didn't ask Betsy what her present was. 5.Ruggedo says that Dorothy and Ozma and the Oz folk drove him out of Nomeland.But it was actually The Great Jinjin. 6.In the previous books,the Oz folk are called Ozmies.But in-Magic-they are called Ozmies. ?????????????????????????????????????????????? Gehan Cooray |
| 026 [Return to index] | Subject: Oz | From: Tyler Jones <tnj at compuserve.com> |
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:27:12 -0500 From: Tyler Jones <tnj at compuserve.com> Subject: Oz Gehan: The Nome King's shifting of the blame in _Magic_ is wasily explained. He's always had it in for the Oz folk, and he wouldn't hesitate to add to their list of "crimes" to make them look bad, even if it wasn't true. Tyler Jones |
| 027 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-13-98 | From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> |
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:51:41 GMT From: David Hulan <davidhulan at ntsource.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-13-98 Gehan: >1.In-Patchwork Girl-The Wizard replaces Bungle's pink brains with new,more >humble ones.(Did he do the same to her heart)?But in-Magic-she's as vain and >selfish as before and she has the pink brains. Literature POV: Baum probably forgot that he'd taken away her pink brains. History POV: She persuaded the Wizard to give her back the pink brains, since it's unnatural for a cat to be humble. >5.Ruggedo says that Dorothy and Ozma and the Oz folk drove him out of >Nomeland.But it was actually The Great Jinjin. True, as far as we know. Although...at the end of _Tik-Tok_ Ruggedo is still in the Nome Kingdom; might it be that Dorothy and Ozma paid another visit there, unrecorded by any Royal Historian, found that Ruggedo had become an _eminence grise_ and was persuading Kaliko to behave naughtily (as in _Rinkitink_), and made Kaliko kick him out permanently? Could have happened, and would resolve that misstatement. >6.In the previous books,the Oz folk are called Ozmies.But in-Magic-they are >called Ozmies. I think you meant "Ozites" in your first sentence. I think Baum's intention was that "Ozmies" were the inhabitants of the Emerald City, while "Ozites" applied to all inhabitants of Oz. (There's a Mysterious Asterisk when the term "Ozites" first appears in _DotWiz_, but no associated footnote.) "Emerald Cityites" doesn't have much of a ring to it. David Hulan |
| 028 [Return to index] | Subject: recent ozzy digests | From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> |
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 09:17:58 CST From: "Ruth Berman" <berma005 at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Subject: recent ozzy digests J.L. Bell: I wonder if "Gugu" might be meant to suggest the leopard's growl. Your suggestion that Trot would surely have let Button Bright, as well as Dorothy and Betsy, get an advance look at her gift for Ozma and therefore he must have been away -- perhaps he likewise went looking for a present to give Ozma and didn't get back until just before the party, because he got lost as per usual? Ruth Berman |
| 029 [Return to index] | Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-16-98 | From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom at hotmail.com> |
From: "Nathan Mulac DeHoff" <xornom at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Ozzy Digest, 12-16-98 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:01:50 PST David Hulan: >I think Baum's intention >was that "Ozmies" were the inhabitants of the Emerald City, while >"Ozites" >applied to all inhabitants of Oz. (There's a Mysterious Asterisk when >the >term "Ozites" first appears in _DotWiz_, but no associated footnote.) >"Emerald Cityites" doesn't have much of a ring to it. Both Thompson and the McGraws use that term, however (the former in _Handy Mandy_, and the latter in _Forbidden Fountain_). Nathan Mulac DeHoff |
| 030 [Return to index] | Subject: shopping in Oz | From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> |
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:14:00 -0500 From: "J. L. Bell" <JnoLBell at compuserve.com> Subject: shopping in Oz About Button-Bright in MAGIC, Ruth Berman wrote: <<perhaps he likewise went looking for a present to give Ozma and didn't get back until just before the party, because he got lost as per usual?>> I find I've written two Oz tales in which Button-Bright gives birthday gifts--in one he chooses something out of his pockets just before the party; in the other he selects a gift (forgetting he's given this person the same thing before), wraps it, puts it in a pocket, and forgets it until the party. I mention these details only so you can see how much respect I have for the lad's planning ability. But perhaps Ojo--who's sitting beside Button-Bright at Ozma's party in MAGIC, and who doesn't attend with Unc Nunkie--helped him find a joint present. [Having sniped at Button-Bright, I should acknowledge not being close to completing my New Year's gift choices myself.] J. L. Bell JnoLBell at compuserve.com |
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